Cannabis Decision "In Days"

[Nitrouk]

A DECISION on whether to reclassify cannabis as a more serious drug will be taken within days, Charls Clarke said yesterday. His decision will follow a review he ordered into the potential harmful effects of the drug. The home secretary said he was woried about new studies linking it with mental health problems. Cannabis was downgraded from class B to class C by his predecessor David Blunkett two years ago.

But Mr Clarke ordered a review last year, Saying Mr Blunkett's decision confused the public. Experts and charities are divided over the issue. Dame Ruth Runciman, Who chaired the initial inquiry wich recomended downgrading, said reclassification would confuse people even more. "It is very ill-judged thing to do" she added. But John Henry, of St Mary's Hospital, London, said there was a link between cannabis and schizophrenia, adding:"It is four times commoner in people who smoke cannabis regularly"




NNOOOOOOOOO THIS SHIT CANT BE HAPPENING :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[Teknobry]

Pathetic.

I don't drink, smoke or take drugs but I think all drugs should be completely de-classified especially rohypnol

[Nitrouk]

Pathetic.

I don't drink, smoke or take drugs but I think all drugs should be completely de-classified especially rohypnol


PMSL

[Skippy]

i say legalise

its no worse than caffine or alcohol! :D

[Mike H]

Although I don't do drugs anymore, apart from caffeine and nicotine, I think cannabis should be legalised.

Excessive use of anything is bad for you.

Cannabis isn't proven to be found addictive, it's the nicotine you somke in the baccy that is.

Make cannabis users smoke bongs and turbo's only and it's all good ;)

[Nitrouk]

Although I don't do drugs anymore, apart from caffeine and nicotine, I think cannabis should be legalised.

Excessive use of anything is bad for you.

Cannabis isn't proven to be found addictive, it's the nicotine you somke in the baccy that is.

Make cannabis users smoke bongs and turbo's only and it's all good ;)


nah man there aint a pipe or bong in the world can give u the same taste and effect as a spliff although vapourisers are quality i tried one in the marijuana museum over in amsterdam the buzz just isnt the same.

[McPikie]

Yeah, legalise it, lets give the government something else to tax us on

[Nitrouk]

ppl vote you mother fuckers i wanna know what people think :lol:

there has been over 40 views and only 6 people have voted so far :evil:



























CUNTS the lot of ya

[McPikie]

I vote we hang you from the old oak tree on top of the hill, by the throat, until you die

[Nitrouk]

I vote we hang you from the old oak tree on top of the hill, by the throat, until you die

Will you abuse my corpse :?:

[McPikie]

Most deffinately, then i will donate it to manchester university in the name of medical science

[3i]

you're just the kind of wanker to sell bodies to the uni for a bit of drug money :lol:

you'd make jack the ripper sick

[madmick05]

I think this is actually a pretty hard choice even thow iv smoked cannabis for a number of years now.You see there are a small population of people who think its cool and its clever to smoke weed to impress others.
But on the other hand theres the recriational smokers or others like me i had a bad car accident 4year ago and damaged the muscles in my spine so im constantly in pain and cant be treated so im signed off work for life.I tried shit loads of painkillers but they did shit till some1gave me a joint and it really does work hence why iv bein doin it since but theres the muppets who just abuse it.Also if they did legalise it think about the tax and they'l mess with the crop takin all the pleasue out of smoking but untill they do i aint gonna change so happy smokin and roll me a fat one !!

[Nitrouk]

I think this is actually a pretty hard choice even thow iv smoked cannabis for a number of years now.You see there are a small population of people who think its cool and its clever to smoke weed to impress others.
But on the other hand theres the recriational smokers or others like me i had a bad car accident 4year ago and damaged the muscles in my spine so im constantly in pain and cant be treated so im signed off work for life.I tried shit loads of painkillers but they did shit till some1gave me a joint and it really does work hence why iv bein doin it since but theres the muppets who just abuse it.Also if they did legalise it think about the tax and they'l mess with the crop takin all the pleasue out of smoking but untill they do i aint gonna change so happy smokin and roll me a fat one !!


You have a good pint and i have to agree that there is a small population of people genrally the younger generations that think it is "cool" to smoke weed unfortunatly, Also the tax is a worrying issue but i would rather pay that little bit extra and know i am safe to posses cannabis and i wont have to worry about police knocking at my door :D you see i am a every day smoker i smoke roughly £10-£20 a day but i dont buy a 10 bag every day i buy in bulk usually a half ounce to keep me going for about a week and i do worry about police so i would rather it be legalised.

[LM]

I think this is actually a pretty hard choice even thow iv smoked cannabis for a number of years now.You see there are a small population of people who think its cool and its clever to smoke weed to impress others.
But on the other hand theres the recriational smokers or others like me i had a bad car accident 4year ago and damaged the muscles in my spine so im constantly in pain and cant be treated so im signed off work for life.I tried shit loads of painkillers but they did shit till some1gave me a joint and it really does work hence why iv bein doin it since but theres the muppets who just abuse it.Also if they did legalise it think about the tax and they'l mess with the crop takin all the pleasue out of smoking but untill they do i aint gonna change so happy smokin and roll me a fat one !!


You have a good pint and i have to agree that there is a small population of people genrally the younger generations that think it is "cool" to smoke weed unfortunatly, Also the tax is a worrying issue but i would rather pay that little bit extra and know i am safe to posses cannabis and i wont have to worry about police knocking at my door :D you see i am a every day smoker i smoke roughly £10-£20 a day but i dont buy a 10 bag every day i buy in bulk usually a half ounce to keep me going for about a week and i do worry about police so i would rather it be legalised.

Fukin ell mate.. :lol:

[Nitrouk]

I think this is actually a pretty hard choice even thow iv smoked cannabis for a number of years now.You see there are a small population of people who think its cool and its clever to smoke weed to impress others.
But on the other hand theres the recriational smokers or others like me i had a bad car accident 4year ago and damaged the muscles in my spine so im constantly in pain and cant be treated so im signed off work for life.I tried shit loads of painkillers but they did shit till some1gave me a joint and it really does work hence why iv bein doin it since but theres the muppets who just abuse it.Also if they did legalise it think about the tax and they'l mess with the crop takin all the pleasue out of smoking but untill they do i aint gonna change so happy smokin and roll me a fat one !!


You have a good pint and i have to agree that there is a small population of people genrally the younger generations that think it is "cool" to smoke weed unfortunatly, Also the tax is a worrying issue but i would rather pay that little bit extra and know i am safe to posses cannabis and i wont have to worry about police knocking at my door :D you see i am a every day smoker i smoke roughly £10-£20 a day but i dont buy a 10 bag every day i buy in bulk usually a half ounce to keep me going for about a week and i do worry about police so i would rather it be legalised.

Fukin ell mate.. :lol:



lol seriously half ounce will last me a week
im talking a quarter (7 gram) for the week after work and the other quarter (7 gram) is for my weekend smokin :D

[3i]

i quit cos i ended up smokin a 20 in a day.

i cant afford 20 quid a day, thats silly, its half a gram of coke. i am right where i started if i am spendin 20 a day on drugs.

[Shannon]

i quit cos i ended up smokin a 20 in a day.

i cant afford 20 quid a day, thats silly, its half a gram of coke. i am right where i started if i am spendin 20 a day on drugs.

So your off the green Jon!?..

How you finding getting off to sleep or have you found something cheaper to put your lights out? :lol:

[DNO]

He gets a suck and tuck :wink:

[Jam]

ive said legalise and it aint that bad a drug.

i dont personally use it, but aslong as its used responsibly and under the same laws as drink driving i think it should be ok to do.

also like the other drinking laws of only being allowed to use in own house or specific areas.

[Nitrouk]

ive said legalise and it aint that bad a drug.

i dont personally use it, but aslong as its used responsibly and under the same laws as drink driving i think it should be ok to do.

also like the other drinking laws of only being allowed to use in own house or specific areas.


i couldnt agree more

[Natty]

so far i've refrained from posting, but reading the copious amounts of 'its not bad' and 'it does no harm' :arrow:

No doubt i'll get the mis-educated stoners preaching its safe, and only nicctine is bad.

But before you preach can you show me the stats to back up any clamis of it being harmless?

Will you ignore evidence that there are cases of phsycological damage from cannabis? Does it not lead to other drugs?

All this bollocks about no lasting damage makes me piss myself, how can you know whether there is lasting damage when its not been widely enough used and monitored to have a case study?

[Nitrouk]

so far i've refrained from posting, but reading the copious amounts of 'its not bad' and 'it does no harm' :arrow:

No doubt i'll get the mis-educated stoners preaching its safe, and only nicctine is bad.

But before you preach can you show me the stats to back up any clamis of it being harmless?

Will you ignore evidence that there are cases of phsycological damage from cannabis? Does it not lead to other drugs?

All this bollocks about no lasting damage makes me piss myself, how can you know whether there is lasting damage when its not been widely enough used and monitored to have a case study?



I will ignore it yes........Because yes i do beleive there is a lasting damage on your brain no drug is harmless. But as for psyhological damage it is only in a small percentage of people and i beleive there has to already be some sort of psychological damage to begin with.


As for it leading to other drugs thats bull it is down to the person and there will power, i have been smoking for 6 years now almost daily i am not a psycho i dont go around atacking random people for money to support my habbit and i dont use other drugs im not going to say i havnt tried them that would be a lie. But i do not use any other drugs and have not for many years because I made the decision not to. It is all down to the individual person :)

[Natty]

As said i expected the Stoners to try argue, but where is the proof of your comments ?

You say 'you believe', but what gives you the authority to say what damage it will cause and to who? are you a medical scientist? can you comment with facts or studys?

Your more qualified than drug rehab counsellors then as they would fully dis-agree with the shit your comming out with?

Or is it your desperation to defend your addiction, and you have nothing more to say than any other desperate drug user?

Will power? yes i'll give you that will power is a factor, but only because the drugs are presented to them. If people were not using ANY drug then they would not be presented the chance to try others (pushers) so the will power argument is cancelled out in your view.

Present facts, statistics, links to where you getting your info, your personnal opinion and so called 'facts' are bollocks.

I could use my personnal opinions and situations and show that Drugs like cannibis do lead to other darker shite, but thats again an opinion, not a fact.

[Mike H]

Will power? yes i'll give you that will power is a factor, but only because the drugs are presented to them. If people were not using ANY drug then they would not be presented the chance to try others (pushers) so the will power argument is cancelled out in your view.

Sorry dude but IMO your wrong. The majority of weed dealers, deal Weed only. Nothing harder.

So the weed user smoking it at home is neither going to be presented with the oppertunity for other hard drugs.

Cannabis is the only drug that IMO doesn't lead you on the slippery slope. I don't really know of anyone who has smoked pot, and then just thought about trying something else.

Fair enough awareness is poor about cannabis, but there isn't even rock solid proof it causes psychological problems as yet...it's all hear say(pure and simple :wink:) at the moment.

[Nitrouk]

As said i expected the Stoners to try argue, but where is the proof of your comments ?

You say 'you believe', but what gives you the authority to say what damage it will cause and to who? are you a medical scientist? can you comment with facts or studys?

Your more qualified than drug rehab counsellors then as they would fully dis-agree with the shit your comming out with?

Or is it your desperation to defend your addiction, and you have nothing more to say than any other desperate drug user?

Will power? yes i'll give you that will power is a factor, but only because the drugs are presented to them. If people were not using ANY drug then they would not be presented the chance to try others (pushers) so the will power argument is cancelled out in your view.

Present facts, statistics, links to where you getting your info, your personnal opinion and so called 'facts' are bollocks.

I could use my personnal opinions and situations and show that Drugs like cannibis do lead to other darker shite, but thats again an opinion, not a fact.



IF you had actually read my post properly you would realise i was actually agreeing with the scientists as i said

yes i do beleive there is a lasting damage on your brain no drug is harmless


BUT i chooses to use marijuana anyway as it is MY belief that the psychological effects only happen in a SMALL amount of users


Also for your information scientists are still undecided on wether it does actually have any long term effects. and this is why they are debating on its legalization and class of the drug.

[Natty]

Sorry dude but IMO your wrong. The majority of weed dealers, deal Weed only. Nothing harder.


Without going into detail on a public forum, trust me mate your far from correct with that.
Maybe where your from its the case, but numerous places i've 'visited' and know have dealers pushing 'anything' to make money.


So the weed user smoking it at home is neither going to be presented with the oppertunity for other hard drugs.


As said maybe thats what you have seen, but i know numerous weed smokers that buy weed and pills off the same dealer, sometimes powder as well if they plan on a busy weekend of clubs, recovering and clubbign more.


Cannabis is the only drug that IMO doesn't lead you on the slippery slope. I don't really know of anyone who has smoked pot, and then just thought about trying something else.


I know of numerous people that started on 'a bit of harmless weed' that have ended up alot different.
One mate commited suicide after getting too much into his weed and the lifestyle it 'can' bring.


Fair enough awareness is poor about cannabis, but there isn't even rock solid proof it causes psychological problems as yet...it's all hear say(pure and simple :wink:) at the moment.

There are some cases to prove that it does serious mental damage, when i get home i'll post the links.
But to play devils advocate there hasn't been enough weed use by our generation and study done to argue either way, and this was my point.

Argue for or against it, but don't give the wank 'its no harm' line when there is neither proof FOR or AGAINST that line of defending it.

[Teknobry]

Purely from my own experience, cannabis itself doesn't lead people to try other drugs, it just happens to be the first one on the ladder for most people.

The way I see it, you have your recreational drugs, weed, xtc, speed, coke, lsd, alcohol.

Obviously, they can all be abused, but in the majority of cases people can get by without them, but choose to take them. The important word there though is that they CHOOSE.

You then have crack cocaine, heroin, methodone, etc. With drugs like these, you have to look at the reasons behind why people take them. Everyone is fully aware of how dangerous and addictive they are. Heroin makes you physically sick the first few times its taken until your body gets used to the drug, yet people will still inject/smoke it until they are past that stage.

I think its to do with social environment, upbringing, stress and mental issues which lead people to move past the point of recreation when it comes to drugs, not cannabis.

All of this is purely my findings though.

[McPikie]

I don't really know of anyone who has smoked pot, and then just thought about trying something else.

I gotta hold my hand up to this one :oops:

I smoked my first spliff at 12yrs old................. by the time I was 15 I had done acid, pills and was nigh on addicted to whizz :( .

I gave the drugs up after having a reality check at 21 when I found myself knocking on a mates window, at 7:00am, covered in grass with a full 2litre bottle of coca cola in my hand............. last thing I remember is being in a nightclub at 1:00am and I had only had 2 pints at that point :roll:

Drugs are bad, but fuck it, get smashed on E's................ it's purely belta :lol:

[Mike H]

lol, I'm not arguing for or against it TBF, because of the lack of proof I'm for it to be legalised.

I don't use it at all, and so I'm not going to suffer.

If we legalise it, dealers will get taxed, and maybe then the government can lower levvies on other taxable interests? Such as petrol? That IMO as a non weed smoker would be a bonus :)

As far as the dealers and what they sell, it's going to be of personal experience so there is little point us arguing, as I've experienced one thing and you another, both sides of the coin, both fair points, just two different circumstances altogether,

[Nitrouk]

lol, I'm not arguing for or against it TBF, because of the lack of proof I'm for it to be legalised.

I don't use it at all, and so I'm not going to suffer.

If we legalise it, dealers will get taxed, and maybe then the government can lower levvies on other taxable interests? Such as petrol? That IMO as a non weed smoker would be a bonus :)

As far as the dealers and what they sell, it's going to be of personal experience so there is little point us arguing, as I've experienced one thing and you another, both sides of the coin, both fair points, just two different circumstances altogether,



BINGO you hit the nail on the head


Hence the poll :wink: