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LM
12th February 2009, 08:47 PM
Decided to put together a DIY rig, which effectively, for those who don't know what the fuck i'm on about, allow shots like below to be taken...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1200/539926620_32d0a3a085_o.jpg

There's various different types of rigs, various places they can connect to etc, and i'm definatly not the first to build/use one.

Basically, it's totally DIY. The only thing I bought was the two suction handles and the bolts/nuts/washers to fix it together.

Started off by seperating the head of my tripod from the legs, so the camera would have something to connect to...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b275/SNOWFLAKE16_/Photography/IMGP0010.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b275/SNOWFLAKE16_/Photography/IMGP0011.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b275/SNOWFLAKE16_/Photography/IMGP0013.jpg

Had an extendable pole, that didn't extend, which we normally use to wash the conservatory roof & back bedroom windows, so that got chopped up which left me with...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b275/SNOWFLAKE16_/Photography/IMGP0014.jpg

I basically set the pole up, measured in from one side a few inches, and drilled an 8mm hole. This would be the connecting point for one of the suction handles. I then did another 8mm hole about 500mm apart from the other so that the weight would be spread a bit more evenly.

I then set up the tripod head on the end of the pole, and drilled two 4mm holes through both the tripod pole and the pole it'self, obviously where the tripod head was going to fasten to the pole.

Didn't take photos of this, as it was fucking freezing and I wanted to get on with it. All of the above left me with this.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b275/SNOWFLAKE16_/Photography/IMGP0031.jpg

And with the camera connected...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b275/SNOWFLAKE16_/Photography/IMGP0033.jpg

Suction handles turned up this afternoon, I wrapped the pole from top to bottom in black tape, mainly just to neaten it up a bit, and also to keep it a little warmer, hands will get uber cold messing with a metal bar in this weather, got all the bolts and got everything all pieced together, which left me with this...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b275/SNOWFLAKE16_/Photography/IMGP0038.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b275/SNOWFLAKE16_/Photography/IMGP0039.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b275/SNOWFLAKE16_/Photography/IMGP0040.jpg

Total cost - £13.00

It's not exactly beautiful looking, and it hasn't been done using the best photography equipment, but it's all safe & secure, nothing wobbles or moves, and it holds fine when mounted. The suction handles themselves hold 30KG each, so more than enough for this.

Pissed it down tonight, so havent been able to get out and play with it, so i've still absolutely no idea if it's going to work how I want it to ie. will the pole be long enough to get some wide shots etc? Will have to test it out and find out. I've basically 'gone in blind' and just hoped it'd work.

Will post some shots up after i've had an hour testing with it, may have to swap poles, or add a few bits etc, but that's what the testings for. :tu:

Sy
12th February 2009, 09:05 PM
You've got camera equipment insurance right? I'll be honest I fear for your camera. :lol:

I'd love to build one, but to get what I'd want would cost a fair amount and for the times I'd use it I can't justify the outlay. Depending on the results of yours (and whether your camera lives to see another day :lol:) I might try some sort of rig up along those lines but with some modifications of my own.

One question though, you can rotate the head 180° so the camera is upside down on the rig can't you?

LM
12th February 2009, 09:22 PM
PMSL. :pmsl:

It looks a bit bodge it & scarper, but honestly, it's all fine. But yes, i've got camera insurance, i'll have hold of the strap anyway whilst trying it out.

And yeah, I can rotate the head so the camera's upside down.

I'll probably end up making some mods to it once i've tried it out, i've got a feeling the pole isn't going to be long enough. At the moment, off a rough test fit (holding the pole against the back window of a car) it sticks out about 2.5-3ft. I'm hoping that with that over-hang, shooting at 18mm, it should produce something half decent.

Were you asking about rotating it upside down for the bonnet-clamped shots? I dont think the pole will be long enough, not this one anyway, to mount on the bonnet and get a full car shot, even at 18mm.

These are just words at the minute though, might be surprised when I get playing with it, or completely shot down and owned, time will tell.

Also, that's just a basic put-together I've photo'd. If you release the bolts a little bit, you can position the suckers differently, offset etc, so the pole can be lower or higher, rather than it being parallel (s).

Hugh Jeers
12th February 2009, 09:25 PM
I have a Jessops tripod which you can take to fuck about with if you like? Similar size to a CX440.

LM
12th February 2009, 09:27 PM
I have a Jessops tripod which you can take to fuck about with if you like? Similar size to a CX440.

Cheers fella, mine still works fine though, i've done it so that I can pull the rig apart, and slide the pole back into my tripod so it can be used normally again.

Thanks for the offer though.

Hugh Jeers
12th February 2009, 09:47 PM
Cheers fella, mine still works fine though, i've done it so that I can pull the rig apart, and slide the pole back into my tripod so it can be used normally again.

Thanks for the offer though.

No worries. Can't get fucking rid of the thing. Think it's gonna end up in the bin TBH.

LM
12th February 2009, 10:10 PM
If I could honestly find a use for it, i'd take it off you fella, but it'd just end up sat in the 'togging cupboard.

Mike H
12th February 2009, 10:20 PM
Be interesting to see the results LM :D

LM
12th February 2009, 10:30 PM
Dont get too excited yet, it's going on your car first...:pmsl:

Hugh Jeers
12th February 2009, 10:40 PM
If I could honestly find a use for it, i'd take it off you fella, but it'd just end up sat in the 'togging cupboard.

Not really worth that - Two of the legs have dropped out of the higher legs, don't know how to put them back in. There's some plastic parts look like they hold the legs in, but Christ knows. Don't want anything for it. It's one of the heads with the spirit level built in, so if anyone can pick it up if they want it for spares, feel free.

Mike H
12th February 2009, 11:08 PM
Dont get too excited yet, it's going on your car first...:pmsl:


:pmsl:

Break my car and DIE.

Kev_Mk3
12th February 2009, 11:16 PM
if the results work can see LM making more :lol:

LM
12th February 2009, 11:19 PM
:pmsl:

Break my car and DIE.

That's why you're fixing it to the car, it'd be my luck for me to stand back and say '...uber or what?...' just as it falls off, smashing my camera to bits and putting your window through. :tu:

Kev - If I can DIY it, any fucker can, i'm useless with a drill etc.

djbolf
13th February 2009, 05:59 AM
I built one myself , worked a treat , i used the same suction tings.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2339/2255195015_b4c6c42f19_b.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bolfotography/sets/72157603882958868/

LM
13th February 2009, 10:15 AM
Looks promicing then. :tu:

Captain Meowmix
13th February 2009, 12:00 PM
Have you got long fucking arms or something? :shock:

LM
13th February 2009, 01:52 PM
You're thinking I'm gunna take the photo from inside the car or something?

Do it via remote, or 2 second/10 second timer.

sxj
13th February 2009, 03:50 PM
looking good get out there and try it !

Sy
13th February 2009, 06:01 PM
Meant for nearly all shots mate (upside down).

I don't have a lens that goes wide enough to even start on a rig so that will come first...after many other things. :pmsl:

LM
13th February 2009, 06:43 PM
Meant for nearly all shots mate (upside down).

I don't have a lens that goes wide enough to even start on a rig so that will come first...after many other things. :pmsl:

Gottcha.

You can laugh at all the testing I have to go through to get some half decent shots, then pwn my idea and fire off good shots straight away when you try it. As normal. :tu:

Wizza
15th February 2009, 12:38 AM
Quality pic there djbolf.

Look forward to seeing the results LM.

LM
18th February 2009, 06:15 PM
Had a quick test before as it was going dark, it's rough as toast and the cars filthy, but I was itching to try it.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b275/SNOWFLAKE16_/Photography/RigShotTest1.jpg

Only thing i've realised so far is that it's a proper cunt to get in place etc, the suction pads when connected to the bar dont like sticking properly, especially on slightly curved surfaces...which is pritty much all cars.

It's steady though, and secure. Pole could do with being a bit longer though, might have to re-think it and make a few mods.

Sy
18th February 2009, 06:59 PM
Not too bad that, but needs either a wider lens or longer pole.

LM
18th February 2009, 07:17 PM
:tu:

Allthough even at 10mm I dont think it'd be enough tbh, not for that rig.

I think i'm gunna have to re-think it and come up with V.2, maybe with different suction cups and a longer length of pole.

It's a bit of a catch 22, the pole's long enough in a way, but you cant get the suction handles right on the edge of the car bonnet/window/roof etc due to it being curved, so you have to place it further in, hense loosing the hang over on the pole.

Mike H
18th February 2009, 10:48 PM
Dude I'm buying a sigma 10-20 or what ever it is soon... we can use that :D

LM
18th February 2009, 11:24 PM
Definarrrtttly :tu:

Think im gunna source a longer pole aswell though, just to be sure.

Kev_Mk3
18th February 2009, 11:40 PM
i need a new lens for mine :(

1stFocus
19th February 2009, 05:16 PM
Use a decorators pole, there extendable?

LM
19th February 2009, 06:05 PM
It's an idea, and has been used many times before, only problem is that with extendable poles, you get lots of vibration and movement.

1stFocus
19th February 2009, 08:06 PM
Id say for the price its worth a quick shot

http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/invt/0225719

LM
20th February 2009, 01:12 AM
Cheers fella.

Gunna take a trip down to B&Q this weekend and have a nosey at what they've got.

Kev_Mk3
3rd August 2009, 10:50 PM
this any use? - http://www.automotiverigs.com/gallery.html

guy been speaking to built one as per below -

http://www.danfreemanphotography.com/random/DSC_1085.jpg



http://www.danfreemanphotography.com/random/DSC_0058.jpg

LM
3rd August 2009, 10:59 PM
$750.00? :pmsl:

Jesus wept.

Kev_Mk3
3rd August 2009, 11:02 PM
$750.00? :pmsl:

Jesus wept.
the one on the clio was a self build - bout £100 max the lad said

LM
3rd August 2009, 11:05 PM
Just been discussing that with Mike, pritty much said the same thing.

Kev_Mk3
3rd August 2009, 11:10 PM
Just been discussing that with Mike, pritty much said the same thing.
oh well :(